I Kissed the Patriarchy TheoBros Goodbye

Seems to me the Patriarchy Hannah thing may be a providential shot over the bow for Brian Sauvé, Eric Conn, Joel Webbon, et al.

I’ve fought for these guys for a long time (see here and here), have been blessed by a lot of what they have to say, and wear a lot of the same labels. But their persistent refusal to accept rebuke coupled with their insistence on being unbalanced and inflammatory has reached a point where I can’t keep walking uphill both ways in the snow to give them the benefit of the doubt. At some point, you will know them by their fruits.

To those in the Patriarchal TheoBro community- if you want to earn some respect, gentlemen, take some responsibility here. I'd recommend starting with the following:

1. Apologize to Allie Beth Stuckey and admit that she warned about the legalistic tradwife cosplay threat a long time ago and you guys (in a very ungentlemanly way) attacked and ridiculed her as a “boss babe” because she has a podcast, while having no objection to the similar social media presence of Patriarchy Hannah, nor any rebuke to her representations of patriarchy, which were sometimes extreme to the level of parody.

2. Apologize to Jeff Durbin, Doug Wilson, James White, and other faithful – and older – believers who have been warning about the dangers of the anonymous armies that you lead for some time, and have now been dramatically proven correct.

Apologies for disrespecting the elderly “boomers” would also be warranted.

3. Demonstrate a willingness to hear rebuke by acknowledging something – anything – profitable in the cautions, warnings, and exhortations that have been directed at your community by dozens of faithful Christian ministers and laymen. These cautions have covered topics ranging from Nazism and antisemitism to the dangers of over-application of patriarchal principles to your embrace of mockery and anonymity. That it seems you can see no truth in any of it at all is a major red flag.

I genuinely want the best for you guys. But you’re really starting to look like a cult – a “movement.” My experience in the Christian community over the last 20 years is that “movements” don’t usually end well.

I know the woke left loves apology hunting. But Christians actually have first dibs on repentance.

There is a difference between being cowardly enough to pay the Dane geld and being man enough to own up and accept rebuke.

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Todd N

Feb 25

For what it's worth, here is is Brian's response to this very odd post:

"Mr. Hudelson, I don't really know who you are, but I don't mind responding to this. Here are a few thoughts organized according to your numbering of the issues.

1. I do not need to apologize to Mrs. Stuckey about what you say here, because I didn't do the thing you claimed. I've never spoken to or of her in an ungentlemanly way, nor have I attacked or ridiculed her. I have rather consistently objected to deploying our women in the world of polemics, political culture warring, etc. This is a principled belief which I stand by. It's a position I've defended publicly and privately both…

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The connection the author is making between Patriarchy Hannah and the Ogden guys seems random, out of place, and, transparently, an effort to gain engagement on the coattails of these very men.